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"Why should we build a plant in the US to manufacture widgets when even after lower taxes and regulation, it’s cheaper to operate that plant outside the US? No doubt, “America first” but what’s the real cost of that, and are we better off using America’s resources to do something else?"

So, I'm fairly free trade, more so than most. But this question does have some answers. I can think of two that are distinct enough to mention separately.

One, and we got a good example during C19, if it's not inside your borders you don't control it. You need a bunch of antibiotics made in India? Well, too bad. India gets to decide that. It doesn't matter as much in "normal" times, but who is to say what is normal? Do we even have a normal these days? Certainly we can't count on things being normal when we are making plans for high inflation since the who point is risk mitigation. Maybe there is some incident with Taiwan and now the US just can't get anything made in China. Who knows.

I was reminded of this semi-recently (2023?) when a stock I owned (SQM) took around a 10% single day hit after Chili nationalized one (or more?) of the lithium mines they "owned". Also pertinent since you specifically mention mining stocks as a possible inflation hedge.

Everyone says it will never happen and then it does. 2023 isn't that long ago.

The second is IP theft. I'm not picking on China specifically but I'll use them as representative. You send a part out to be plastic molded, what exactly is your "value add" once they have the mold and it's running smooth? Maybe they just run some extra parts and put their logo on it? And what are you going to do about it anyway?

I think we take something like "rule of law" for granted and it's not really so. Then people are all "inconceivable!" when it does happen. It's not actually that inconceivable.

Germany recently learned that lesson most painfully with Russian natural gas.

Anyway. Not to detract from your general point, but when building up that cost benefit matrix, lets just make sure we don't completely ignore these very real costs. There are probably others, these are just the ones that came to my mind.

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Is anyone aware of any economist's work/papers on what point they think the fiscal debt will reach the point of starting to collapse our economy?

That may seem like an odd question, but I have heard the fiscal alarms for a couple decades now, and we always seem to press on. The last few years it feels like the politicians just gave up and decided to give something away to everyone with total disregard for any budgetary restraint.

I think we are all watching this in a state of numbness, but what do the economists say about when the fireworks are going to get started with a fiscal implosion?

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