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Lynn W Gardner's avatar

Jeffrey, when you have a minute could you expand on your idea about St Louis. Atlanta is the Capital of the South, just ask anyone. Besides that one day when you go to heaven you will need to connect through Hartsfield-Jackson (ATL) 😉

Jeffrey Carter's avatar

This is true. As I said above, now with so many people moving around the country, it will be interesting to see how that affects network connections. Also remember, it's not one homogenous network. There are networks inside broader networks. For example; because of MLK, a big center of gravity for Black networks is Atlanta. Hence if you are Black you can reap big career dividends by being in that network. Professor Burt was more looking at corporate boards, and the way businesses are networked. At that time, there were weak connections from NYC to ATL, and the strong network connections persisted through St. Louis. St Louis was a hub of network activity for both sides during the Civil War. Ironically, Pres Grant's in laws lived there (and were slave owners!!) St. Louis has certainly seen business activity drop in the last two to three decades, so it is one to watch. If it drops out from being a key node on a network, then it will see economic decline as well. Once you are kicked out of a network, it's very hard to get back in. You have to create outsize value. I do not have a map of Professor Burts data, and it is impossible to find online because it is his, and proprietary to him. But, it's worth it to pay for a lecture to hear him relay information about them. Inside companies, there are networks. Understanding where they are, and how they work, can create opportunity for your career. Some companies as Burt would say have networks that are "Guacamole Kool Aid drinking" networks. Some are personality driven where one person gets all the credit and name recognition and others do not. Totally fascinating stuff.

Lynn W Gardner's avatar

Jeffery why I asked about St Lewis was in the 1970’s and 1980’s the Woolworth ((Woolworth, Woolco, Kenny Shoes, Footlocker) Regional Office was in St Louis. In fact it was located in a turn of the 1800’s to 1900’s building that had been a businessmen’s club (had a pool in the basement). But even in the early 1980’s downtown St Louis was becoming a ghost town as business offices moved to more modern cities (ATL, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston). That’s why I asked. As you note there have to be people for networks to exist.

Scott Waller's avatar

Fascinating topic. The networks in Las Vegas are strange. There is unusual number of people who come here to disconnect from parts of their networks.

Jeffrey Carter's avatar

Don't disagree. They want to check out. Since Vegas is connected to the rest of the world via LA (in a corporate/business sense) it's easier to hide.

Aaron M. Renn's avatar

Is there a good book or paper(s) by Burt you could recommend that would be a good primer on his work? Preferrably not too math encrusted.

Jeffrey Carter's avatar

HA, Ron is about stats/math! You'd have to go to his page, and look at his selected papers.

Aaron M. Renn's avatar

I was afraid of that.

Rascal Nick Of's avatar

It is awesome that you have a network of people familiar with how to be a good state treasurer. I know I dont have to tell you that you also need a network of people that can help you win the state treasurer election. Godspeed.

Tom Eckert's avatar

What do you think of what's left of the networks in troubled Dem run cities, like LA, New York, and our long lost Chicago?

Jeffrey Carter's avatar

They persist. Chicago is a "closed network" city. The NYC , LA, and SF networks are very open. The politics in a city rarely describe how the overall network operates.