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Bill Lacey's avatar

Opportunity costs are not shared equally across the economy. Example scenario - all US shoe factories are closed and all shoes are imported from China. Beneficiaries are US shoe purchasers. Those negatively impacted are unemployed workers from the closed factories. So the "free trade" question is - does the aggregate savings from all US shoe purchasers exceed the lost wages from the fired workers? Maybe. Maybe not. But each fired worker is paying a much higher price for "free trade" than the cools kids saving on their pair of Allbirds.

To say, as you do, that this is only a concern in vital industries such as electronics is the equivalent of saying "Learn to code." My point is that opportunity costs associated with free trade extends beyond dollars and cents, to social, moral, psychological and structural costs. If entire towns are wiped out because free trade caused the largest employer, the local paper mill or local steel mill, to close, any incremental savings that resulted can not offset the damage and devastation from that scenario. Drive through Bridgeport, Ct or any town in western New York state to see what I'm talking about.

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Peter Yastrow's avatar

Lot of economics is needed to understand the entire situation; at least one bachelor’s degree worth.

There are many different aspects to every point you made, and you did a great job trying to explain the costs and benefits of each issue- Thanks.

When it comes to “intellectual property” we try to protect the inventor, creator, because it incentivizes people to be inventive and creative.

Without intellectual property rights we would get into a “steel the bacon” business model. Rather than spending money on Research and development, companies would pay for information about competitors, and keep their powder dry, waiting to pounce on any new product or technology.

The second rat would get the cheese, having not spent capital on research and development, they could avoid dead end efforts, and just do it right-

But intellectual property rights also have a huge negative to consumers. Patents on drugs allow big pharma to gouge us- and charge prices that are beyond the price that would afford them the opportunity to recoup their costs of research and development. They exploit governemnt to keep the patents in place- the longer the better for the company- what’s appropriate? 1,2,5 years? Who decides? Nancy Pelosi and her hedge fund husband Pauly P?-

Just this topic could be an entire Econ class- I know- I took it🤓

The bottom line is China erects all sorts of barriers, they manipulate their currency, prevent us from buying their assets with our strong dollars- Europe puts on tariffs to prevent competition- and given “economies of scale”, which is a huge aspect of all of this, that you can address in your next post, the US has a massive advantage. We have well developed capital markets, and can out produce any entity in Europe- that’s how we own WWII.

So there’s no way to remain pristine in the international trade war.

They “cheat” and steal and copy and manipulate, and we can’t allow other countries to continue.

So Trump has fought back- and it will have all sorts of impacts on everything from inflation to jobs. But I 100% agree with your statements about the “trade balance” it’s a ridiculous number and making it go from negative to positive doesn’t mean we have improved our economy, or made America greater -

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