Could it be that young men don’t respond to female authority, and suffer gravely in our feminist society? Is it a coincidence that this trend began after the courts denied men a proper role as fathers, discouraged as educators, as counselors, as mentors?
This young man in Texas did the unforgivable, yet I have sympathy for him because his life was meaningless and he had no one to relate to, and there was no person to which he felt accountable, not even himself.
Two "articles" I read this morning kinda back each other up with regards to why. The first is a threadapp'd version of a tweet exploring the history of mass shooting in schools.
It mentions "the use of anti-depression medication, especially SSRIs. It was in 1987 that the first selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, commonly known as an SSRI, was developed and it quickly became the standard. You’ve probably heard its name–Prozac. Other SSRIs were soon produced, and SSRIs are now the most prescribed antidepressant in the US."
1987 would match up with those pre-teen young men born in 1975 acting up and acting out who need to be quieted down.
I think that is why Psychiatrists need to be involved in exploring solutions. They know how the drugs work inside your brain to alter brain chemistry. They also understand social isolation
"That tweet mentions that that "[s]omething went wrong for kids born post 1975"." A friend who was born in 1977 said that her generation was the last...I wish I could remember her exact words, but the sense of it was that those born much later than her were a different kind of people from those of previous generations.
I've long found phrases like 'gun killings' to be questionable. There are signs in various places: 'XXX people killed by guns this week." Don't they care about people knifed to death, strangled, deliberately run over by cars, etc?
Speaking of economists, it strikes me that I've never seen a reference to the *fungibility* of murder weapons...if all guns magically disappeared, what % of the killings (of various types) would also disappear, versus would be accomplished with some other weapon?
Another point that I haven't seen much discussed: if guns did not exist, it seems likely that mob action against individuals would be encouraged. Quite a few years ago, screenwriter Robert Avrech wrote about the experience of being caught with his family in a threatening mob. The title of the post he wrote about this was 'Jew without a gun', and he resolved that never again would he be a Jew without a gun.
I detest "gun killings"; "mass shootings" etc. Fungibility-substitutes! Guns are easier to use obviously. Would the kid in TX done the same with a bat, a sword, a hammer etc? Maybe, but it's likely it would have happened to fewer people. Personally, I wonder if he was abused as a child-perhaps as a fourth grader and acted out. In his sick twisted mind, he was going to "save" them from what happened to him.
I think if you want to carry, go ahead and carry. But, don't do it without taking a lot of gun safety classes and practicing. The left thinks it will be the Wild West, but if you take one of those classes you learn that you shouldn't be in a situation where you will be shooting in the first place.
Despite the "headline" stories, which suck when they happen, the vast/broad/obvious majority of people who legally own guns don't commit these types of acts. And in the latest instance, why would an 18 year old need to be purchasing an AR-15 or similar weapons? Shotgun or rifle for hunting? Not overly suspicious. Pistol for self defense? Also not overly suspicious? AR . . . well, that might be a little suspicious even thought he technically has a right. Just thinking openly here, and definitely not trying to destroy 2A, but perhaps just throwing some common sense into the situation.
I don't think it is wrong to do that. So, as a gun shop owner, what happens if you report a purchase like that to the authorities? (I honestly don't know).
Perfectly laid out. The obvious short-term solution is to make it hard to enter a school. This is common sense. These killers are counting on rapid, unimpeded entry. Cultural rot is the bigger, more difficult problem to deal with.
Yup. Curing cultural rot flies in the face of the left wing agenda. Many would rather have the government write a check and sit in their suburban home.
Marijuana usage seems to be a common thread. Today's high potency weed can't be helping the situation.
These things are hard to regulate. You can make a law saying you can't carry a gun when you're really high, but the really high person isn't going to pay attention to a law in the first place.
Alex Berenson wrote about the relationship between marijuana and violence in a 2018 book called "Tell your children." He became interested through anecdotal stories he heard from his wife who is a forensic psychiatrist. He's made some interesting comments about it today, including that the NYT has scrubbed the Texas shooters use of marijuana from its articles. One of the things about the ubiquitous use of marijuana that should be a red flag is that no one seems interested in studying the effects on young brains that are not fully formed, or studying its negative effects at all.
On an economics theme, the more guns there are the more likely they will be used. So as more guns are added to the inventory there are more suicides and murders. To reduce gun deaths the US needs to reduce the number of guns. Which I understand is hard.
At some point guns became important symbols in some parts of society. I grew up in Indiana in the 70s/80s. There was one gun shop in Indianapolis. I went to school at IU and there were no gun stores along the way. Last time I drove through there was more than 1. Guns are tools, nothing more, nothing less. Somehow society needs to rid itself of the fascination with guns. But then you have performative morons like Thomas Massie and his Christmas card.
There are a few marginal laws that may make a difference. Red letter laws could have prevented several previous mass shootings according to a study funded by AZ gov. Ducey. Longer waiting periods for purchases. Particularly effective for impulsive actors including suicides.
The one thing I absolutely hate, even if it is necessary in the short term, is hardening schools more than they already are. We free people should be able to live without fear of being killed. Lots of black and brown people in Chicago neighborhoods think so too.
I believe in the ability for people to own guns but the no compromise gun "advocates" really make me want to vomit in times like these.
I don't think your initial assumption is true. "the more guns, the more likely". My father had a Mossberg bolt action shotgun. He hasn't shot it for at least 60 years or more. I own two shotguns. I haven't shot them in three years at least.
I think you have to harden schools up. It's a band aid.
You never acknowledge that there might be a deeper problem. It's all about the gun.
I did acknowledge the deeper problem with the cultures' obsession with guns. Our culture has a bunch of people who see using guns to kill others as a useful outlet to address their problems. Whether that's the murderers in TX and NY or the gang bangers in Chicago. Both problems would be reduced if guns were not as readily available.
Chicago government really does have a point that the never ending supply from IN keeps the Chicago gangs fully supplied. It's no different in concept than when people from IL go to buy cheaper gas in IN. Water finds its way down hill.
My compromise is to force the low standard states to implement the most stringent regulations that pass constitutional limits. Including Red Letter laws.
So, your solution to Chicago's gun issues are ban guns in Indiana? Is that what I am understanding? Nationally, you'd go to the lowest common denominator-so if Vermont passes a super strict gun law then Kansas has to abide by it?
Chicago does not ban legal gun purchases. In fact it's pretty easy to buy one legally in Cook County, if not the city. There's nothing wrong with having everyone in the country who wants a gun to get a FOID card (which includes background checks), take mandatory training, and register their guns. Car drivers, who kill 40,000 people a year, do most of that and more.
There is one thing EVERY mass shooter has in common. Marijuana use, usually heavy use.
Alex Berenson (who writes on Substack under "Unreported Truths", he is a former NYT science reporter) who is a liberal's liberal, wrote a book about this after his wife, who is a physiatrist, mentioned to him that nearly every young male she treated with mental and emotional problems were heavy users of pot.
On the schools being closed issue. Think about it. If a kid has a sh***y home environment, school may be the only place where he can go to have decent relationships, whether it be with adults or other kids.
The evil teacher's unions and the Dem's took that away from troubled kids for two years.
I've said something like this before elsewhere. As a society, we used to train people to be well-adjusted, productive adults. Now since the Communist "March Through The Institutions" has been completed, we educate, train, brainwash, feed, medicate and vax children into compliant zombie slaves, and we teach adults that it is best if they have minds and act like children. This is all part of the Communist plan to destroy the nuclear family, and thus subjugate society. Deranged teenagers didn't shoot up elementary schools 20, 30, 40 years ago when they had MUCH easier access to firearms. So clearly the "gun" (nor lack of gun control laws) is not the problem here. This act may seem rather random, but it is obviously celebrated as a "glorious opportunity to do things you normally can't do" (particularly to your political enemies by the Communist Left). There is a reason for that...
Keep your slaves scared, sick, and poor, and they will never revolt or leave the plantation. Its worked perfectly as executed in major American cities, and every Communist country.
Limit ingress at every school to one or two entries and have an armed guard at each entry point. Then you can do the other stuff which may or may not work. But limited entry manned by armed guards generally work. Administrative staff could check what is being brought in to the school as part of their regular duties, under the supervision of the armed guard.
Could it be that young men don’t respond to female authority, and suffer gravely in our feminist society? Is it a coincidence that this trend began after the courts denied men a proper role as fathers, discouraged as educators, as counselors, as mentors?
This young man in Texas did the unforgivable, yet I have sympathy for him because his life was meaningless and he had no one to relate to, and there was no person to which he felt accountable, not even himself.
I think that writer Jason Whitlock has said similar. Men are emasculated
Two "articles" I read this morning kinda back each other up with regards to why. The first is a threadapp'd version of a tweet exploring the history of mass shooting in schools.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529487203612631043.html
That tweet mentions that that "[s]omething went wrong for kids born post 1975". Which kinda is corroborated by the second article, from Red State
https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/05/26/could-ssri-antidepressants-be-one-of-the-causes-behind-these-mass-shootings-n570142
It mentions "the use of anti-depression medication, especially SSRIs. It was in 1987 that the first selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, commonly known as an SSRI, was developed and it quickly became the standard. You’ve probably heard its name–Prozac. Other SSRIs were soon produced, and SSRIs are now the most prescribed antidepressant in the US."
1987 would match up with those pre-teen young men born in 1975 acting up and acting out who need to be quieted down.
I think that is why Psychiatrists need to be involved in exploring solutions. They know how the drugs work inside your brain to alter brain chemistry. They also understand social isolation
"That tweet mentions that that "[s]omething went wrong for kids born post 1975"." A friend who was born in 1977 said that her generation was the last...I wish I could remember her exact words, but the sense of it was that those born much later than her were a different kind of people from those of previous generations.
I've long found phrases like 'gun killings' to be questionable. There are signs in various places: 'XXX people killed by guns this week." Don't they care about people knifed to death, strangled, deliberately run over by cars, etc?
Speaking of economists, it strikes me that I've never seen a reference to the *fungibility* of murder weapons...if all guns magically disappeared, what % of the killings (of various types) would also disappear, versus would be accomplished with some other weapon?
Another point that I haven't seen much discussed: if guns did not exist, it seems likely that mob action against individuals would be encouraged. Quite a few years ago, screenwriter Robert Avrech wrote about the experience of being caught with his family in a threatening mob. The title of the post he wrote about this was 'Jew without a gun', and he resolved that never again would he be a Jew without a gun.
I detest "gun killings"; "mass shootings" etc. Fungibility-substitutes! Guns are easier to use obviously. Would the kid in TX done the same with a bat, a sword, a hammer etc? Maybe, but it's likely it would have happened to fewer people. Personally, I wonder if he was abused as a child-perhaps as a fourth grader and acted out. In his sick twisted mind, he was going to "save" them from what happened to him.
I think if you want to carry, go ahead and carry. But, don't do it without taking a lot of gun safety classes and practicing. The left thinks it will be the Wild West, but if you take one of those classes you learn that you shouldn't be in a situation where you will be shooting in the first place.
Despite the "headline" stories, which suck when they happen, the vast/broad/obvious majority of people who legally own guns don't commit these types of acts. And in the latest instance, why would an 18 year old need to be purchasing an AR-15 or similar weapons? Shotgun or rifle for hunting? Not overly suspicious. Pistol for self defense? Also not overly suspicious? AR . . . well, that might be a little suspicious even thought he technically has a right. Just thinking openly here, and definitely not trying to destroy 2A, but perhaps just throwing some common sense into the situation.
I don't think it is wrong to do that. So, as a gun shop owner, what happens if you report a purchase like that to the authorities? (I honestly don't know).
Perfectly laid out. The obvious short-term solution is to make it hard to enter a school. This is common sense. These killers are counting on rapid, unimpeded entry. Cultural rot is the bigger, more difficult problem to deal with.
Yup. Curing cultural rot flies in the face of the left wing agenda. Many would rather have the government write a check and sit in their suburban home.
Marijuana usage seems to be a common thread. Today's high potency weed can't be helping the situation.
These things are hard to regulate. You can make a law saying you can't carry a gun when you're really high, but the really high person isn't going to pay attention to a law in the first place.
Alex Berenson wrote about the relationship between marijuana and violence in a 2018 book called "Tell your children." He became interested through anecdotal stories he heard from his wife who is a forensic psychiatrist. He's made some interesting comments about it today, including that the NYT has scrubbed the Texas shooters use of marijuana from its articles. One of the things about the ubiquitous use of marijuana that should be a red flag is that no one seems interested in studying the effects on young brains that are not fully formed, or studying its negative effects at all.
Some data, graphically displayed:
https://ricochet.com/1262782/mass-shooting-deaths-in-the-us-1982-2022/
Fascinating graph. Wonder what it truly means when it comes to policy etc?
Never forget: https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1529452731492089859?s=20&t=7rLDJUKzB7HqQWYfHxyLPw
My friend Curt wrote his thoughts down here: https://acardcarryingcentrist.wordpress.com/2022/05/26/this-conservative-agrees-gun-laws-need-change/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/we-must-confront-the-cultural-mess-that-gave-us-uvalde I am not the only person thinking this way
Funny but not satirical: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/kevindowneyjr/2022/05/25/mass-shooting-facts-to-shut-down-your-liberal-sister-in-law-and-her-annoying-man-bunned-non-binary-boy-friend-at-your-memorial-day-bbq-n1600774
The blogger known as the Assistant Village Idiot works with mentally ill people and with the criminal justice system. Worth following on this subject:
https://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/
On an economics theme, the more guns there are the more likely they will be used. So as more guns are added to the inventory there are more suicides and murders. To reduce gun deaths the US needs to reduce the number of guns. Which I understand is hard.
At some point guns became important symbols in some parts of society. I grew up in Indiana in the 70s/80s. There was one gun shop in Indianapolis. I went to school at IU and there were no gun stores along the way. Last time I drove through there was more than 1. Guns are tools, nothing more, nothing less. Somehow society needs to rid itself of the fascination with guns. But then you have performative morons like Thomas Massie and his Christmas card.
There are a few marginal laws that may make a difference. Red letter laws could have prevented several previous mass shootings according to a study funded by AZ gov. Ducey. Longer waiting periods for purchases. Particularly effective for impulsive actors including suicides.
The one thing I absolutely hate, even if it is necessary in the short term, is hardening schools more than they already are. We free people should be able to live without fear of being killed. Lots of black and brown people in Chicago neighborhoods think so too.
I believe in the ability for people to own guns but the no compromise gun "advocates" really make me want to vomit in times like these.
I don't think your initial assumption is true. "the more guns, the more likely". My father had a Mossberg bolt action shotgun. He hasn't shot it for at least 60 years or more. I own two shotguns. I haven't shot them in three years at least.
I think you have to harden schools up. It's a band aid.
You never acknowledge that there might be a deeper problem. It's all about the gun.
What's your compromise?
I did acknowledge the deeper problem with the cultures' obsession with guns. Our culture has a bunch of people who see using guns to kill others as a useful outlet to address their problems. Whether that's the murderers in TX and NY or the gang bangers in Chicago. Both problems would be reduced if guns were not as readily available.
Chicago government really does have a point that the never ending supply from IN keeps the Chicago gangs fully supplied. It's no different in concept than when people from IL go to buy cheaper gas in IN. Water finds its way down hill.
My compromise is to force the low standard states to implement the most stringent regulations that pass constitutional limits. Including Red Letter laws.
So, your solution to Chicago's gun issues are ban guns in Indiana? Is that what I am understanding? Nationally, you'd go to the lowest common denominator-so if Vermont passes a super strict gun law then Kansas has to abide by it?
Chicago does not ban legal gun purchases. In fact it's pretty easy to buy one legally in Cook County, if not the city. There's nothing wrong with having everyone in the country who wants a gun to get a FOID card (which includes background checks), take mandatory training, and register their guns. Car drivers, who kill 40,000 people a year, do most of that and more.
re Marijuana...60s & 70s hippies had their problems, but weren't generally violent people.
There is one thing EVERY mass shooter has in common. Marijuana use, usually heavy use.
Alex Berenson (who writes on Substack under "Unreported Truths", he is a former NYT science reporter) who is a liberal's liberal, wrote a book about this after his wife, who is a physiatrist, mentioned to him that nearly every young male she treated with mental and emotional problems were heavy users of pot.
On the schools being closed issue. Think about it. If a kid has a sh***y home environment, school may be the only place where he can go to have decent relationships, whether it be with adults or other kids.
The evil teacher's unions and the Dem's took that away from troubled kids for two years.
I've said something like this before elsewhere. As a society, we used to train people to be well-adjusted, productive adults. Now since the Communist "March Through The Institutions" has been completed, we educate, train, brainwash, feed, medicate and vax children into compliant zombie slaves, and we teach adults that it is best if they have minds and act like children. This is all part of the Communist plan to destroy the nuclear family, and thus subjugate society. Deranged teenagers didn't shoot up elementary schools 20, 30, 40 years ago when they had MUCH easier access to firearms. So clearly the "gun" (nor lack of gun control laws) is not the problem here. This act may seem rather random, but it is obviously celebrated as a "glorious opportunity to do things you normally can't do" (particularly to your political enemies by the Communist Left). There is a reason for that...
Keep your slaves scared, sick, and poor, and they will never revolt or leave the plantation. Its worked perfectly as executed in major American cities, and every Communist country.
Limit ingress at every school to one or two entries and have an armed guard at each entry point. Then you can do the other stuff which may or may not work. But limited entry manned by armed guards generally work. Administrative staff could check what is being brought in to the school as part of their regular duties, under the supervision of the armed guard.