Also, by many measures, the fastest growing population for the Roman Catholic Church is Texas. Not just because of organic growth or even Latino immigration. It is because of orthodox Catholics moving out of places like Chicago and into places like Dallas.
So if you are a Cardinal in Chicago with dwindling Church attendance, you might want to ask yourself, why is my flock leaving? Answer is easy,...the flock is leaving the obnoxious hierarchy but staying with the Church.
As a director for Opportunity Network, in more than 130 countries with 72,000 CEOs worldwide as clients and a half trillion dollars in deal flow pending on our platform at any given time, I am in touch with a lot of executives around the world and their opinions in the past 6 months about our so-called elite academic institutions have changed dramatically.
Former clients of mine from The Exchange floors have also experienced a dramatic change in their thinking.
I have had multiple dozens - not just three or four - multiple dozens, tell me that their organizations will no longer hire students from schools such as Harvard and Penn and MIT and Northwestern because it shows flawed judgment on the students' part for being willing to attend a university that promotes hatred and discrimination against Jews and against conservatives and for that matter, anyone who is not on the left.
These men and women are tremendous success stories and their words carry much weight.
Do not underestimate Bill Ackman's actions against Harvard months ago and the growth in Jewish alumni groups forming around the world to take action against these schools.
When these schools see, and the results are just beginning to show up in their published statistics, the drop in donations and the ability of students to gain employment after graduation in the next two to three years, they will have a choice to make.
The various Alums For Campus Fairness groups from around the country stand up to discrimination and foolish conduct by administrations turning a blind eye to the blatant ignorance displayed by their students and professors and other administrators.
Admittedly, I have a healthy skepticism about the lasting impact of these actions by these various groups, but I have heard the change in tone of voice and commitment by many of these people and it is very encouraging.
The ultimate irony may become that the United states, a very young Nation, has a second Civil War in which the deep South fights for the freedom for all against the oppressive regime of those in the north and that would not surprise me in the least in the next 20 years.
After retiring from a career in IT, I took a job recruiting for an automotive tech school. From 2001 until 2010, I saw the faint parental shift away from private colleges to state schools, then from any college to trade schools. Especially for boys. Older sibs with college debt working as baristas pushed their younger sibs to get a work-centered career.
my experience tracks what you describe pretty well: super-elite prep school, top third went Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford. Middle third smaller schools you describe as middle ivy’s, Vanderbilt, Duke, and prestige state schools. Bottom third a bit of a mixed bag. Military academies drew a handful from the top two thirds. This was almost 40 years ago.
Ive noticed in the last decade, the matriculation list has a lot more state schools, which I had attributed to less demand for and more supply of “elite” prep school grads nationwide, but I think there is something else at work here. The top state schools are throwing money at the high achieving kids, and the so-called “elite” colleges are actively discouraging recruitment of same.
One of our kids was rejected early decision from a non-ivy “prestige” college. This applicant had a 4.1 or 4.2 GPA, near perfect ACT (35), and a great story to tell, but like his or her smart Asian friends, they were unwanted. The admissions departments are staffed with 20-something know-nothings who believe their mission is to right society’s wrongs by admitting otherwise unqualified minorities or bought-in foreigners rather than protecting and advancing the schools reputation for academic excellence. The rejected achievers are all doing fine at other schools, thriving in most cases, mostly in the South. Study habits and drive work anywhere, and the flip side of that is that an admission to Harvard for an under-achiever will not bequeath the recipient with study habits or a bank of knowledge, let lone the drive and work ethic to succeed.
Regarding hiring, I suspect the career-risk-insurance value of hiring from the ivy’s or top 10 law may be fading. Witness the poop show at Stanford law and the announcements from several top law firms regarding a hiring/internship boycott of these schools and law students signing onto these public demands for whatever. As an employer, I would view any ivy grad as more prone to be a troublesome employee just by dint of the environment they were in for 4 years. A good student understands his or her job is to excel academically, not preen and virtue signal in support of what’s the most important issue of the day. If they understand their job in school, they should understand success in the workplace. And vice versa.
Incumbency gives a great edge, but it is not immune to incompetence forever. And if the ivy-educated radical you just hired turns out to be a disaster, it may be whomever you’re accountable to views an ivy hire as a lazy choice in a world with easy-to-access social media and law enforcement interaction histories. If so, the “elite” schools and their students are slouching their way into irrelevance.
I am slightly less sanguine than you as to recent shifts in the winds. It feels like a head fake to me.
The left is EMBEDDED, ENTRENCHED, IN THE WATER in these institutions and the glue of tenure is virtually unbreakable. They will go to ground and put some camouflage on their hate, but it is still there.
It is made worse since the administration and the profs are cut from the same liberal, left twisted fabric.
When the admin -- the supposed leaders and disciplinarians -- and faculty either openly or covertly signal that hateful speech, thought, and writing are OK, then the students will follow suit.
Penn had a bloody hate fest as part of its official "diversity" offerings. They invited Hamas sympathizers onto their campus under the guise of protected speech.
What schools need to be held to is this -- they took hard earned money in return for delivering an education in a safe and secure environment and then they allowed chaos to occur thereby compromising the agreement.
If a school allows Hamas sympathizers operating under the guise of Palestinian supporters to congregate and intimidate Jewish students, then, amigo, you are not an elite institution of learning; you are a spawner of hate.
If your university President cannot immediately assess that calling for the murder of all Jews and the destruction of Israel on your campus violates the university's code of conduct, then you are the problem.
Free speech is not hate speech and if you can't tell the difference then you don't belong in the leadership, management, or teaching corps of an American college or university.
But I keep thinking in the back of my head that we need a plan. Like a business owner, just letting the market take its course and watching these institutions slowly crumble seems to be too slow and uncontrolled.
How do we--as conservatives, the GOP--whatever you want to call our institution, actually change these places? Right now we are on the outside looking in. We are allowing communists and Left-wing zealots to capture this vital institution and then waiting for it to fall.
How do we rebalance the equation so that it's not so leftist and that there actually is a diversity of viewpoints and ideas? Some of the faculties at these places donate over 90%-100% to Leftist politicians and causes. The administrations are probably the same.
I feel like our "hands off" libertarian style of politics is not serving us well, because we've lost almost every institution in America.
We have to learn to fight strategically and then teach everyday people how to join that fight. I don't know the "how" answer, but I keep thinking that it is necessary for my children to have a good life.
Love it, Jeff! I grew up in a North Side high rise and went to a small grammar school in Edgewater, run by the nuns of the Sacred Heart. My parents wanted me to go to St. Ignatius for HS but after a couple of my older, former classmates were mugged at the Roosevelt Rd subway stop, I sought out the beauty and safety of Loyola Academy, 13 miles away in Wilmette. When it came time for college, I tried deciding on which Jesuit school would best suit my needs. Marquette, Loyola, Boston College-too cold. Georgetown, too brainy. Ah, what about a Jesuit college in Mobile, Alabama, with a campus dominated by an 18 hole golf course! So, off to Spring Hill I went, and I've loved the South ever since.
I'm not sure the Ivy's have much sway anymore. As an employer, I would second guess any "ivy" kid. Many firms, of which Arthur Andersen rings a bell - always hired from state schools - a chance to get a harder working kid with grit who had to prove himself always made for a better employee than the stereotypical Ivy grad (obviously many of those grads were/are hard working). But as someone who hires people - I will take exception with Ivy grads. They will have to demonstrate that they are not an indoctrinated dolt. My going in assumption will be that they are. And that is what an Ivy grad is facing out in the work world. Have an Ivy degree? Red Flag. Warning you might be working with a woke, indoctrinated non-thinking person. Personally, I'm seeing a big pivot to IU (Kelley School of Business) and other midwest business schools as viable alternatives for bright kids. I know lots and lots of kids who would have been Ivy material, aren't any longer. Our own son, with a Penn alumni dad, will not be submitting any applications to Ivy's. They are just a poor economic choice....
Affluent, white, female, liberals (AWFL’s) are destroying this country. Along with their master, Obama. It’s gonna be fun to watch when they realize what a caliphate is and what their role will be in it.
The long term policies elite colleges face is their uber socialist stances are going to antagonize the large donors who support them. While I don't know what colleges Ken Griffin of Citadel Capital donates to, I do know when he left Chicago a lot of his public largess went to Miami. It's' hard to replace donors who give money in the tens of millions, and with the large number of superfluous university staff, with large salaries, these colleges will burn thru their endowments quicker than they think.
Not too long of an article and well worth reading and probably prophetic of what will occur in the next few months in Chicago especially during the DNC convention:
Also, by many measures, the fastest growing population for the Roman Catholic Church is Texas. Not just because of organic growth or even Latino immigration. It is because of orthodox Catholics moving out of places like Chicago and into places like Dallas.
So if you are a Cardinal in Chicago with dwindling Church attendance, you might want to ask yourself, why is my flock leaving? Answer is easy,...the flock is leaving the obnoxious hierarchy but staying with the Church.
As a director for Opportunity Network, in more than 130 countries with 72,000 CEOs worldwide as clients and a half trillion dollars in deal flow pending on our platform at any given time, I am in touch with a lot of executives around the world and their opinions in the past 6 months about our so-called elite academic institutions have changed dramatically.
Former clients of mine from The Exchange floors have also experienced a dramatic change in their thinking.
I have had multiple dozens - not just three or four - multiple dozens, tell me that their organizations will no longer hire students from schools such as Harvard and Penn and MIT and Northwestern because it shows flawed judgment on the students' part for being willing to attend a university that promotes hatred and discrimination against Jews and against conservatives and for that matter, anyone who is not on the left.
These men and women are tremendous success stories and their words carry much weight.
Do not underestimate Bill Ackman's actions against Harvard months ago and the growth in Jewish alumni groups forming around the world to take action against these schools.
When these schools see, and the results are just beginning to show up in their published statistics, the drop in donations and the ability of students to gain employment after graduation in the next two to three years, they will have a choice to make.
The various Alums For Campus Fairness groups from around the country stand up to discrimination and foolish conduct by administrations turning a blind eye to the blatant ignorance displayed by their students and professors and other administrators.
Admittedly, I have a healthy skepticism about the lasting impact of these actions by these various groups, but I have heard the change in tone of voice and commitment by many of these people and it is very encouraging.
The ultimate irony may become that the United states, a very young Nation, has a second Civil War in which the deep South fights for the freedom for all against the oppressive regime of those in the north and that would not surprise me in the least in the next 20 years.
After retiring from a career in IT, I took a job recruiting for an automotive tech school. From 2001 until 2010, I saw the faint parental shift away from private colleges to state schools, then from any college to trade schools. Especially for boys. Older sibs with college debt working as baristas pushed their younger sibs to get a work-centered career.
my experience tracks what you describe pretty well: super-elite prep school, top third went Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford. Middle third smaller schools you describe as middle ivy’s, Vanderbilt, Duke, and prestige state schools. Bottom third a bit of a mixed bag. Military academies drew a handful from the top two thirds. This was almost 40 years ago.
Ive noticed in the last decade, the matriculation list has a lot more state schools, which I had attributed to less demand for and more supply of “elite” prep school grads nationwide, but I think there is something else at work here. The top state schools are throwing money at the high achieving kids, and the so-called “elite” colleges are actively discouraging recruitment of same.
One of our kids was rejected early decision from a non-ivy “prestige” college. This applicant had a 4.1 or 4.2 GPA, near perfect ACT (35), and a great story to tell, but like his or her smart Asian friends, they were unwanted. The admissions departments are staffed with 20-something know-nothings who believe their mission is to right society’s wrongs by admitting otherwise unqualified minorities or bought-in foreigners rather than protecting and advancing the schools reputation for academic excellence. The rejected achievers are all doing fine at other schools, thriving in most cases, mostly in the South. Study habits and drive work anywhere, and the flip side of that is that an admission to Harvard for an under-achiever will not bequeath the recipient with study habits or a bank of knowledge, let lone the drive and work ethic to succeed.
Regarding hiring, I suspect the career-risk-insurance value of hiring from the ivy’s or top 10 law may be fading. Witness the poop show at Stanford law and the announcements from several top law firms regarding a hiring/internship boycott of these schools and law students signing onto these public demands for whatever. As an employer, I would view any ivy grad as more prone to be a troublesome employee just by dint of the environment they were in for 4 years. A good student understands his or her job is to excel academically, not preen and virtue signal in support of what’s the most important issue of the day. If they understand their job in school, they should understand success in the workplace. And vice versa.
Incumbency gives a great edge, but it is not immune to incompetence forever. And if the ivy-educated radical you just hired turns out to be a disaster, it may be whomever you’re accountable to views an ivy hire as a lazy choice in a world with easy-to-access social media and law enforcement interaction histories. If so, the “elite” schools and their students are slouching their way into irrelevance.
I am slightly less sanguine than you as to recent shifts in the winds. It feels like a head fake to me.
The left is EMBEDDED, ENTRENCHED, IN THE WATER in these institutions and the glue of tenure is virtually unbreakable. They will go to ground and put some camouflage on their hate, but it is still there.
It is made worse since the administration and the profs are cut from the same liberal, left twisted fabric.
When the admin -- the supposed leaders and disciplinarians -- and faculty either openly or covertly signal that hateful speech, thought, and writing are OK, then the students will follow suit.
Penn had a bloody hate fest as part of its official "diversity" offerings. They invited Hamas sympathizers onto their campus under the guise of protected speech.
What schools need to be held to is this -- they took hard earned money in return for delivering an education in a safe and secure environment and then they allowed chaos to occur thereby compromising the agreement.
If a school allows Hamas sympathizers operating under the guise of Palestinian supporters to congregate and intimidate Jewish students, then, amigo, you are not an elite institution of learning; you are a spawner of hate.
If your university President cannot immediately assess that calling for the murder of all Jews and the destruction of Israel on your campus violates the university's code of conduct, then you are the problem.
Free speech is not hate speech and if you can't tell the difference then you don't belong in the leadership, management, or teaching corps of an American college or university.
JLM
www.themusingsofthebigredcar.com
I sure hope so.
But I keep thinking in the back of my head that we need a plan. Like a business owner, just letting the market take its course and watching these institutions slowly crumble seems to be too slow and uncontrolled.
How do we--as conservatives, the GOP--whatever you want to call our institution, actually change these places? Right now we are on the outside looking in. We are allowing communists and Left-wing zealots to capture this vital institution and then waiting for it to fall.
How do we rebalance the equation so that it's not so leftist and that there actually is a diversity of viewpoints and ideas? Some of the faculties at these places donate over 90%-100% to Leftist politicians and causes. The administrations are probably the same.
I feel like our "hands off" libertarian style of politics is not serving us well, because we've lost almost every institution in America.
We have to learn to fight strategically and then teach everyday people how to join that fight. I don't know the "how" answer, but I keep thinking that it is necessary for my children to have a good life.
The SEC member schools can now say they are proud of the academic achievement of there under grads!
Love it, Jeff! I grew up in a North Side high rise and went to a small grammar school in Edgewater, run by the nuns of the Sacred Heart. My parents wanted me to go to St. Ignatius for HS but after a couple of my older, former classmates were mugged at the Roosevelt Rd subway stop, I sought out the beauty and safety of Loyola Academy, 13 miles away in Wilmette. When it came time for college, I tried deciding on which Jesuit school would best suit my needs. Marquette, Loyola, Boston College-too cold. Georgetown, too brainy. Ah, what about a Jesuit college in Mobile, Alabama, with a campus dominated by an 18 hole golf course! So, off to Spring Hill I went, and I've loved the South ever since.
I'm not sure the Ivy's have much sway anymore. As an employer, I would second guess any "ivy" kid. Many firms, of which Arthur Andersen rings a bell - always hired from state schools - a chance to get a harder working kid with grit who had to prove himself always made for a better employee than the stereotypical Ivy grad (obviously many of those grads were/are hard working). But as someone who hires people - I will take exception with Ivy grads. They will have to demonstrate that they are not an indoctrinated dolt. My going in assumption will be that they are. And that is what an Ivy grad is facing out in the work world. Have an Ivy degree? Red Flag. Warning you might be working with a woke, indoctrinated non-thinking person. Personally, I'm seeing a big pivot to IU (Kelley School of Business) and other midwest business schools as viable alternatives for bright kids. I know lots and lots of kids who would have been Ivy material, aren't any longer. Our own son, with a Penn alumni dad, will not be submitting any applications to Ivy's. They are just a poor economic choice....
Affluent, white, female, liberals (AWFL’s) are destroying this country. Along with their master, Obama. It’s gonna be fun to watch when they realize what a caliphate is and what their role will be in it.
The long term policies elite colleges face is their uber socialist stances are going to antagonize the large donors who support them. While I don't know what colleges Ken Griffin of Citadel Capital donates to, I do know when he left Chicago a lot of his public largess went to Miami. It's' hard to replace donors who give money in the tens of millions, and with the large number of superfluous university staff, with large salaries, these colleges will burn thru their endowments quicker than they think.
Not too long of an article and well worth reading and probably prophetic of what will occur in the next few months in Chicago especially during the DNC convention:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/what-began-at-columbia-may-climax-in-chicago/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fchicago